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Post by RS-icsulescu on Dec 31, 2011 14:18:08 GMT 2
Although at the registration users are adviced to register in their home country (or country where they leave) or in Rest of World if their country doesn't exist in the game, I read on the french forum that a user registered in Rest of World because he thought it would be easier. There are also other users who done this, or who registered in a Australia, New Zeeland or South Africa instead of Rest of World probably because they are big fans of this national teams. Other situation that would require moving teams from a country to another is when a new country in added. There are a few users from USA, Spain, Belgium and maybe Portugal and I intend to add this leagues and users from this country who already registered need to be moved from one country to another. So let's make a debate about how moving of a team to another country should be. IMO, finances, stadium, staff should be the same. But I think the biggest problem is players and staff nationality. It would be a little big weird to have a belgium player called Colin Reid, for example. And what if that player already played for the national team of Rest of World? I would say yes to keeping of the nationality of the players. What is your opinion?
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Post by mowglibayat on Dec 31, 2011 14:34:39 GMT 2
I'd just change the players nam and nationality imo... that way the new 'nation' also has some "better" players, because if yo don't change nationality, after creating the country they still dont have players for tat country
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Post by TR-nightmorphis on Dec 31, 2011 18:02:58 GMT 2
I'd also change only name and nationality, or we'll have A nations and B nations
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Post by RS-icsulescu on Dec 31, 2011 18:48:39 GMT 2
Yeah, but some users already now almost all their players names and it would be a big shock to see their players name changed.
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Post by RS-icsulescu on Dec 31, 2011 18:50:04 GMT 2
or we'll have A nations and B nations What do you mean? Like in real life where is Italia and Italia A? Then no. There will be only one national team and one U20 national team for every country.
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Post by ohdaesu on Jan 1, 2012 13:19:54 GMT 2
If teams want to move than you have to change players nationality and maybe names also. That will be pretty hard to do. But actually i have a more important question. Do we have to move our club?what if we are happy with current sitiuation and dont want to move?
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Post by RS-icsulescu on Jan 1, 2012 13:26:07 GMT 2
Do we have to move our club?what if we are happy with current sitiuation and dont want to move? Yes. It isn't fair for the users that registered in their real country.
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Post by langhe on Jan 1, 2012 15:55:25 GMT 2
Maybe an idea. There is a game that I play, called paintballmanager. There you register in a country ... but leagues change if needed. E.g. 3 seasons ago there was a pure Belgian league. Not enough active managers, so Belgium and Netherlands were mixed to BeNe leagues. Still didnt work out, so now I'm playing in the Atlantic Series, which are Belgium, England, Scotland and Ireland (no idea about Wales or Ntherlands, maybe they jus dont have top teams for the top league).
So basically you play in the same league with other nationalities, yet your nation still has its own NT. Maybe you can move everyone to it's true country ... and let them play in the 'rest of the world' leagues.
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Post by mowglibayat on Jan 1, 2012 21:12:42 GMT 2
Yes, but this suggestion here was bout the countries where there are enough people of of to deserve an own league.
But you could indeed prevent this for the future with making name lists for all countries, and with th registering saying tha if that country has not got enough actives to get an own league, they are in rest of the world... like now, but with own nation players.
So in he future it can be easily overcomed... but it still leaves the problem of those currently in rest of the world... but I still support my 'just change the names and nationality'... that way, the thing langhe said can be imported asap aswell...
about people already knowing their players names... they'll get to know the new ones as fast aswell:D..
think this is the best solution though:)
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Post by TR-nightmorphis on Jan 1, 2012 21:29:38 GMT 2
or we'll have A nations and B nations What do you mean? Like in real life where is Italia and Italia A? Then no. There will be only one national team and one U20 national team for every country. No, I mean: players from a country like Romania or Italy have one year of training, I think it's not fair to create a nation with entirely new players for the teams that will transfer there
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Post by giampa on Jan 1, 2012 22:04:15 GMT 2
I am one of the ppl you mentionned I am italian but registered in the rest of the world, mostly becuase i love the idea rugby is international But now i am think if there will be a world cup or international games, how we can participate? So i support the idea to change name and nationallity or to create a way that the names changes automatically depending on the nation you choose?
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Post by RS-icsulescu on Jan 1, 2012 23:25:17 GMT 2
Maybe an idea. There is a game that I play, called paintballmanager. There you register in a country ... but leagues change if needed. E.g. 3 seasons ago there was a pure Belgian league. Not enough active managers, so Belgium and Netherlands were mixed to BeNe leagues. Still didnt work out, so now I'm playing in the Atlantic Series, which are Belgium, England, Scotland and Ireland (no idea about Wales or Ntherlands, maybe they jus dont have top teams for the top league). So basically you play in the same league with other nationalities, yet your nation still has its own NT. I saw this in other games too. It is a very good idea especially for legues with only a few users where sometimes it might be boring to play against the same teams over and over. Maybe you can move everyone to it's true country ... and let them play in the 'rest of the world' leagues. I don't want to do this. Because 'Rest of World' will become a big league with 6-7 levels (divisions) and the other divisions will be abandoned. My goal is to make every league active.
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Post by RS-icsulescu on Jan 1, 2012 23:34:02 GMT 2
But you could indeed prevent this for the future with making name lists for all countries, and with th registering saying tha if that country has not got enough actives to get an own league, they are in rest of the world... like now, but with own nation players. Great ideea. I'll do this and I'll make a tool to detect automatically the country from which the users tries to register (based on the IP), and that country will be selected when you go to the register page. If you change the country you'll have to complete another field with the reason and the admins will have to approve the registration. A big problem is that with giving teams from 'Rest of World' players with names from the country they registered because the first and last player names are stored in a database and I introduced every name manually. Adding players names for every country can take a lot. So in he future it can be easily overcomed... but it still leaves the problem of those currently in rest of the world... but I still support my 'just change the names and nationality'... that way, the thing langhe said can be imported asap aswell... about people already knowing their players names... they'll get to know the new ones as fast aswell:D.. think this is the best solution though:) I'm thinking to change their names, nationality and to move the teams to their national leagues at the end of season 2 ... But I haven't reached to a final decision.
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Post by ohdaesu on Jan 2, 2012 0:34:34 GMT 2
what about the league level? can you move a team from the same level of league to another? for example if i win the 2nd level league of NZ at the end of season, can you move my team directly to top level rest of world league? What if all the places for a new team is busy at the moment and you move my team to 2nd level of league although i won 2nd level league? Then that will be the biggest unfair action at that moment...
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Post by RS-icsulescu on Jan 2, 2012 0:58:04 GMT 2
what about the league level? can you move a team from the same level of league to another? for example if i win the 2nd level league of NZ at the end of season, can you move my team directly to top level rest of world league? What if all the places for a new team is busy at the moment and you move my team to 2nd level of league although i won 2nd level league? Then that will be the biggest unfair action at that moment... And was it fair that you selected New Zeeland when you registered although on the register page it is written: "If your country is not in the list choose "Rest of World"." ? But this isn't a final decision. Maybe I won't move teams who already registered in another country.
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