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Post by RS-icsulescu on Feb 1, 2012 20:33:50 GMT 2
OK, thk for the answer. But i don't really understand, if a lot of my players are better in the rating (I talk about each player rating) i'm not better in the game ? Thanks Usually yes, but it depends what position they play. A second row player can get higher rating then other players, so you should compare players from the same position.
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Post by grivita on Feb 8, 2012 17:55:41 GMT 2
Dude , i understand , it happens once , it happens twice , but almost everytime i am better than my oppenent in statistics but the game end draw , or i lose : Game 1 : I was way better at lineouts My rating 58 his rating 51 , my attack was better than his ( i had 21 attack he had 19 ) defence was equal 21-21 , and he had only 1 point more than me at scrums he had 28 i had 27. Even if my lineout rating was better than his by 7 points , he had 16 lineouts (12/4) i had 14 (11/3) so this means that in total i won 15 lineouts , he won 15 lineous .... where the hell is that 7 points difference ? i don't get it .. He had 5 penalties 4 missed i only had 1 ... And if you compare his players ratings to mine i was still better . The game was lost ... Game 2 Scrums : he was better by 1 point ( 28-27) , Lineouts i had 58 he had 49 rating Lineouts count he had 9 (7/2) i had 5 (5/0) => total 7 lineouts me 7 lineouts him , where the hell is that difference of 19 rating between our lineouts ? Defence he had 24 vs my only 20 , attack he had 17 i had 20 ; Attack + Defence he was better by 1 point. The player rating were pretty even , this game was pretty fair , but still i didn't see that massive difference in the lineouts ! He also had 4 penalties all 4 missed but still i had 0 penalties ! Game 3 I was better in the scrum by 2 points ( 28-26 ) , lineouts were even 57-57 , i had defence 21 he had 20 , i had attack 21 he had 18 , so attack + defence i had 4 points more than him and still i lost . And there is something strange again why did he have 5 penalties ? he missed 4 of them but still i only had 1 . I think there is a big problem with penalties since there is no agresivity in the game why do i have less penalties than my opponents ? Players' rating i was better than him ! Game ended as a draw
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Post by RS-icsulescu on Feb 8, 2012 19:34:35 GMT 2
First, teams playing home have a small advantage in scrums and lineouts. In the first match his kicker was better then yours. That's why you lost. Match 2: 58-49 is 9 not 19 . The difference between ratings is low. Show me a match where the difference between attack+defence+scrums+lineouts of the both teams is more then 15 and the weak team won or made a draw? I don't think you will find one. The number of penalties + dropgoals is calculated based on kicking frequency and the number of attacks the team has. If you have high kicking frequency then you will have more dropgoals + penalties but less try scoring oportunities. The number of tries scored by each team in a match is calculated with decimals. If a team scores for example 2.99 tries, this team will get the same tries as one who scored 2.00 tries. So, in order to compensate this, teams who score 2.99 or 2.85 tries usually get a 2 penalties. Teams who score 2.50 tries get 1 penalty ... and so on.
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Post by grivita on Feb 8, 2012 19:56:33 GMT 2
The difference between ratings is low. Show me a match where the difference between attack+defence+scrums+lineouts of the both teams is more then 15 and the weak team won or made a draw? I don't think you will find one. I don't think that's possible since it's only the beginning of RS but this is why the match engine should be more "sensitive" because every change in starting XV should count , i mean i worked a lot to set up my best team with every position and i meet a team with one who simply "throws" his players on the field and lose ... Like in game 1 .. His centre was a Forward and his no.8 was a Back ... and i'm not so sure he tried to much to set his team ... But still .. in first game i was better than my opponent with 8 points total , second game 7 and 3rd game 6 points ... if they would have been league games i would have got 5 points in 3 games where i was better than my opponent PS : The home ground advantage isn't calculated in Scrum , Lineout , Attack and Defence ? So the home ground advantage was already calculated
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Post by RS-icsulescu on Feb 8, 2012 20:12:54 GMT 2
PS : The home ground advantage isn't calculated in Scrum , Lineout , Attack and Defence ? So the home ground advantage was already calculated No. The home ground advantage isn't showed in the ratings.
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Post by stefnihon on Feb 8, 2012 22:54:15 GMT 2
I'm sorry but it is absolutely useless to try to analyze any match with statistics if we know that the home team will win ever or even make a draw if she is just under rating than the better one... I hope that this game is not just to put our players on the field and wait for the results without doing anything...
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Post by grivita on Feb 11, 2012 20:27:16 GMT 2
Mdea , inca o infrangere chiar daca am jucat "Da totul pe teren" , la atac si aparare am avut mai bun , am fost mai slab la tusa si gramezi ordonate , insa iar la lovituri cu sutul el a avut 5 penalitati si 1 drop goal . Eu 0 la ambele ... si in meci mai arata ca a dat 2 drop goluri el si defapt la statistica are doar 1 . www.rugbyspirit.net/match.php?id=18931&tid=496 , se pare ca trebuie sa ma obisnuiesc cu ideea de a lua bataie in meciurile echilibrate Mereu in meciurile care au fost relativ echilibrate am luat bataie
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Post by TR-nightmorphis on Feb 11, 2012 20:32:09 GMT 2
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Post by grivita on Feb 11, 2012 21:14:04 GMT 2
Well this is frustrating to see that in 4 games i was slightly better than every team but i lose ... one , twice , but every time is very frustrating ...
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Post by chewy on Feb 12, 2012 4:51:15 GMT 2
I think my game is similar. www.rugbyspirit.net/match.php?id=17590&tid=348I am 9 points better according to the ratings. +1 star scrims, 2 lineouts,= def,attack. I played to my strengths and lost. I Am now going back to my default settings as I was winning with those .
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Post by RS-icsulescu on Feb 12, 2012 23:05:58 GMT 2
I'm sorry but it is absolutely useless to try to analyze any match with statistics if we know that the home team will win ever or even make a draw if she is just under rating than the better one... This isn't true. Home teams only have a little advantage in scrums and lineouts.
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Post by chewy on Feb 13, 2012 3:07:23 GMT 2
I have also changed some players positions we shall see how that goes
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